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Jason Jones: Mason and JT Shine

September 30th, 2009 No comments

From the Sac Bee Kings blog, Jason Jones tells us:

The stars of last night’s scrimmage, according to coach Paul Westphal, were forward Jason Thompson and guard Desmond Mason.

Westphal said Thompson did a good job rebounding and “reading the situations when the ball came to him offensively.”

Mason, the veteran guard trying to make the team after playing in only 39 games for Oklahoma City because of a knee injury, was aggressive on offense and defense, Westphal said.

Click that link above for more news and notes from the day.

Kings Media Day 2009: Desmond Mason

September 28th, 2009 No comments

I know I’ve been in the minority with this Desmond Mason signing but I love the attitude and professionalism that he brings to a team.

In talking to him today and observing other interviews, you can see why Geoff Petrie and Paul Westphal are so high on him as a person and a player even if many fans are confused by the signing. Ultimately, it’s still just a non-guaranteed contract and he might not even make it to the regular season with this team, let alone stick around long enough to have his entire salary for the season become set in the Kings’ payroll.

On Media Day, Desmond talked about what the game means to him now, why he signed with Sacramento, and the exclusivity of having his email address:

With guys like Donte Greene and Omri Casspi in need of a good test early on, I still think it would be beneficial to employ Mason for the entire year. They need to gradually prove they belong in this team’s long-term plans and he can be that stepping stone.

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Defending the Desmond Mason Signing

September 18th, 2009 5 comments

I’m going to assume you’ve already read Tom Ziller’s questioning of the Desmond Mason signing. If you haven’t, here it is.

I’m going to steal a line from My Cousin Vinny to address Tom’s assertion of this Desmond Mason signing:

“That is a lucid, intelligent, well thought-out objection. Overruled!”

Okay, maybe I don’t have the authority to overrule Tom Ziller on this issue. Hell, I don’t even really know what that would mean. But I’m going to take a different route with this transaction. I think it’s a good signing overall. Could there have been better signings? Absolutely. The Kings were supposedly set with their roster at 13 guys, needed a backup big man in the worst way, and then a couple days later signed the 32-year old swingman to a team that is now gluttonous with 2’s and 3’s. But I don’t think it makes it a completely nonsensical signing by any means.

This signing wasn’t the same type of transaction as the Celtics signing Marquis Daniels or the Cavaliers signing Anthony Parker. Both of those were to add depth at weak positions and both cost a lot more than the veteran’s minimum. The Kings signing Desmond Mason was the equivalent of the Mavericks acquiring Quinton Ross. They were acquiring a role player to fill a specific need – defense.

So let’s break this signing down into four factors of why this deal makes sense:

1. Players Respect His Defense

When you look at the advanced statistics, Desmond Mason’s defensive ratings over the last five years are startling bad for someone that is supposed to come in and bring a defensive mindset. His last five seasons worth of defensive ratings starting with the most recent are 111, 114, 109, 109, and 113. That’s not good at all. As Tom pointed out, “This is roughly comparable with Kevin Martin (though Martin’s 2008-09 117 DRtg is a bit extreme). Kevin Martin is not known as an incredible defender.”

(Warning: this explanation should be taken with a grain or two of salt due to the fact that I probably understand advanced statistics at an 80% capacity, where as guys like Tom can recite this stuff backwards and forwards. So perhaps, I’m talking out of my ass here)

Advanced statistics are great tools for figuring out quite a few things but defensive rating is a tricky stat to play with in my opinion. To my knowledge, this category factors in the amount of points teams give up while that player is on the court over the course of 100 possessions. Well, the biggest hand up I have with it is we’re deciphering how good a defensive player someone is by factoring what their team does (essentially).

Well, if you look at Mason’s teams over the course of those five years, he’s played on some atrocious defensive teams. In fact, the only above average defensive team he played with during that time was the 2006-2007 Hornets. They were 14th in the league in team defensive rating. Granted, they were almost three points worse per 100 possessions with Mason on the court. The other teams, starting with the most recent, were 20th, 30th, 19th, and 28th in the league in team defensive rating. Granted, in all of those seasons Mason’s team was usually about two points better with him not on the court (according to defensive rating) than with him but I have a hard time ascertaining that this makes him a bad or subpar defender.

When you’re on inherently bad defensive teams and you’re playing extended minutes, more often than not, it seems to me that you would have a bad defensive rating. This doesn’t make him Kevin Martin bad just as much as it doesn’t make him Shane Battier good with defense. I think it’s tough to judge him based on defensive rating. What I think we should judge him on is what people see on the court on a daily basis. I included a quote from Royce of Daily Thunder yesterday and he stated that Mason’s defensive effort seemed to change how his teammates played. I think that’s an important thing to consider from someone who watched Mason last year more than any of us did.

I also was struck by the tweet from Kevin Durant in response to one of your fellow Kings’ fans, @rc360. He stated, “[Desmond Mason] plays harder than anyone I ever seen!! Great defender.” Now, Durant could be completely biased on this subject but I think you can take a lot out of one of the best natural scorers of the past decade stating that about a 32-year old guy with bad wheels. Should we read that statement as irrefutable fact? Not a chance. But it’s something to consider just as much as the defensive rating. And I’m guessing that Durant isn’t the only guy that is impressed by Mason’s defense and work ethic.

2. He Isn’t Going To Be The Sixth Man
There seems to be a worry from a few Kings fans that Mason is going to take valuable time away from some of the young players with such a logjam at the wing positions. I find that hard to believe.

It seems that Mason is more rounding out the roster than he is applying for starter’s minutes with this signing. I think he’s a bit of an insurance policy to add depth to the shooting guard position if Kevin Martin finds the injury bug once again. If he plays more than 20 minutes per game this season, it’s probably because he earned it, there was an injury, or Paul Westphal has lost his mind. I think the third option here is the least likely of these situations to happen.

Mason isn’t going to take minutes from Francisco Garcia as much as he’ll be there in case of health issues and/or player development issues. He isn’t being asked to come in here and be Bruce Bowen for the title contending Spurs. He will be a role player from the bench that will earn his way onto the court or be a Mateen Cleaves on the sidelines.

3. He Has a McFarlane Figure

Check that out!

They don’t just make those of anybody! He earned that!

4. We’ll Find Out What The Young Guys Have
This is the most important part of this signing in my opinion. He’s going to challenge the young guys every day in practice with his alleged hard-nosed defense and “legendary” work ethic. There’s nothing worse than waiting on young guys to develop and eventually realizing that they just don’t have it to compete for your beloved team. As a Wolves fan, I know this better than just about any other fan base. So when you have the chance to get a guy like Mason who can theoretically weed out the young guys who don’t have it, I think you should bring that player aboard.

Omri Casspi is a complete enigma in the sense that we don’t have a lot of information or evidence of what this guy can do. I watched him for five games in the Summer League and think that I know what he brings to the table. He seems like a guy that has a player-maker’s instinct somewhere inside him and is fearless and poised no matter how he is playing. But that was Summer League and who knows if he’s a legit young guy or someone that can look like he has promise against guys who may or may not make the D-League.

Donte Greene is an even greater enigma. He’s an enigma, wrapped in a riddle, surrounded by a David Blaine trick (one of the few that works). We don’t know if he’s real or a figment of our imagination. We don’t know if he’s the next Tim Thomas or what Tim Thomas was supposed to be. We just don’t know anything with him. The only time he’s impressed me in the last year-plus was when he dropped 40 in a Summer League game. Other than that, he’s been hugely disappointing as a rookie with limited opportunities, he didn’t dominate a local pro-am, and he never really had a great game during this summer’s Vegas vacation.

I’m not a guy that likes it when young people or players are given something without earning it. I regaled against the media when it seemed like they were trying to get LeBron James an MVP award three years ago, despite the fact that there were clearly more deserving players and it seemed like we were just trying to justify the hype early. I don’t think that all kids playing little league sports deserve a trophy just for trying. And I don’t think young, pro athletes should get playing time just because they could be the future. I think young people have to learn how to earn things in life. And that’s what this Desmond Mason signing means to me.

Casspi and Greene shouldn’t just be given time on the court to see what they can do if they can’t beat out Desmond Mason in practice. Giving them an inflated sense of self worth is probably the worst thing you can do for this struggling franchise (other than giving Beno Udrih the full mid-level exception). They need to earn their time on the floor by proving they can out play, out hustle, and out work a 32-year old veteran with a horrific jump shot and bad knees. This business isn’t about being nice and giving everybody a chance. It’s about proving you’re more worthy of a job than the guy next you on the bench. It’s how you weed out the deserving players from the busts.

That’s the environment that the Kings need right now. They need work ethic, toughness, and pride. They didn’t seem to have much of that last season. That’s why I’m all for the Desmond Mason signing. You don’t have to prove yourself with some young roster filler that should probably be assigned to the Reno Big Horns. You usually win your minutes based on your salary and draft position. With Mason, there’s only one way to prove yourself. Beat out the old guy.

If the Kings young swing men can’t do that, you’ve answered the question of whether or not you can build a foundation with these guys.

Were there more pressing needs for this team? Absolutely. But that doesn’t mean this signing can’t be invaluable on the practice court and in the development of this franchise’s young assets.

Although there is one point Tom brought up that is undeniable, “Try cupcakes! Little children such Greene and Casspi loves cupcakes!”

Cupcakes are great motivational tools.

You may now commence skewering me for thinking Mason’s signing is legit.

Desmond Mason Dunk from 2/22/2005

September 17th, 2009 No comments

There may be a slew of these over the next couple of weeks. I’m not sure how much I’ll be able to contain myself. I love Dez’s in-air theatrics.

This was a dunk from 2005, at the end of a Bucks-Bobcats game. It was completely unnecessary but for some reason he just unleashed a windmill of Dutch proportions. I’m hoping for one of these this season.

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Desmond Mason to the Kings – Updated!

September 17th, 2009 5 comments

News out of the Associated Press from ESPN.com is that Desmond Mason is going to be the 14th man on the Kings roster:

Free-agent swingman Desmond Mason met with the Sacramento Kings this week and could sign as soon as Thursday.

Mason took a physical after meeting with Kings officials in Sacramento on Wednesday, a person with knowledge of the meeting told The Associated Press. The person spoke on condition of anonymity because a deal had not been signed.

I’m all for this signing because I’ve always been a fan of Desmond Mason. He’s never been a very skilled basketball player. He doesn’t take many outside jumpers and has only made 66 three-pointers in his career at a 26% clip.

But his defense has often been solid and his athleticism is still something to be marveled at.

The Kings won’t get the dunk champion version of Mason by any means but he can still occasionally spring up out of nowhere and put the ball down on a player’s head.

Update:

We have some conflicting reports. Not about the signing but about the prospective usefullness of Mason on this team.

First, I asked Royce from Daily Thunder for his thoughts on what Mason can bring to a team at this stage in his career. Here’s what he said:

Dez is a bulldog. Defense isn’t just his calling card, but tough defense. He wants to play physical, in-your-face defense and make going against him hell. Last year with OKC he changed the whole team’s defensive mentality when he instituted a “no fly zone” rule. Basically, if you came near the rim your shot was getting blocked or you were getting fouled. He’s a great leader and a great teammate. But his offense, oh his offense. He’s got a herky-jerky jumpshot that’s basically just a prayer every time it goes up. The only offensive move he has that’s worth a darn is his little back-to-the-basket baby hook, but he’s got to have a mismatch to pull that off. Oh and dunks. He can definitely dunk. But he’s got value because of his hard-nosed defense and leadership. Just don’t expect much more than that.

Sounds good, right? Well, I was reminded of this piece from Basketball-Reference on StR’s comments section by lifestyleforthesellout, which basically states that Mason has been one of the worst players in the league.

In other words, if there’s a statistical category out there (at least in terms of the box score), odds are that it showed Desmond Mason to be a really bad player last season. Not just mediocre, not just below-average, but legitimately terrible. Now, you might be making excuses for Desmond, saying that he was hurt a lot last year, and had to be shut down in January because of a knee injury, so maybe it’s not a fair 39-game sample upon which to judge Mason.

OK, I’ll grant that. So how about the 243 games he’s played since 2005-06 (which theoretically should have included some prime seasons)? Would that be a large enough sample? How was he over that span?

Still gawd-awful.

In the history of basketball, there have been some statistical anamolies that we simply can’t account for how effective they are on the court. Shane Battier is one of them. Unfortunately, the Kings aren’t signing Shane Battier to a one-year, minimum deal.

Overall, he adds the tough, physical play that the Kings brass was clamoring for when the draft happened. I think his defense can be invaluable if Donte Greene or Omri Casspi can’t step in and stop their man from blowing by them (more of  a problem with DG than Casspi).

Let’s just hope he doesn’t cross over to the offensive side of the court when he’s on the floor.

Video found from Sam Amick’s post on the SacBee blog:

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