Musings from the Kings Fourth Summer League Game
There are worst things than losing to the D-League Select Team in the Summer League. You could find out that you’re $1 million richer if Mike Bibby gets a defensive stop. You could find out your child is going to be on the Real World: Cancun (I’m looking at you, parents of either Emilee or Ayiiia). In fact, there are probably thousands of things worse than losing to a D-League Select Team.
It’s not like losing to a college team in Spring Training. These D-League players are all extremely talented and a step or break away from being in the NBA. But at the same time, with the Kings down 0-3 in VSL play so far fans definitely wanted to see the Kings an almost assured win in game #4.
The perplexing thing about this game was how the Kings lost. The box score shows that the D-League team won by 16 with a big fourth quarter showing. But watching the game showed that the Kings were down 90-87 with four minutes left in the game and the D-Leaguers finished the game on a15-2 run. Part of it was sharpshooting by guys like Othyus Jeffers and Trey Johnson. Another part of it was getting tough breaks with the bounce of the ball and some questionable officiating.
Ultimately, nobody cares that this team lost. From my experience, being in Vegas for a fourth or fifth day can be completely draining. You should never spend more than three full days in Las Vegas. By the fourth day, you’re just going through the motions and wanting to get out of there. You’re not quite feeling the experience any more and you usually crash and burn as you finish out your gambling before you head for the airport. That’s how the Kings looked out there at times. Nine times out of 10, they take that game and take it convincingly. But with Tyreke Evans semi-nursing a sprained finger and the rest of the Kings enduring another day in Vegas past the three-day maximum it makes a lot of sense as to why they crumbled.
Here are the player recaps for the fourth game of the summer:
Jon Brockman
Kent Brockman wasn’t exactly the rebounding force that we have expected every game from him and that’s probably going to be indicative of how his nights in the regular season go. Some nights he’s going to grab eight or nine rebounds in limited time. Other nights, he’ll be lucky to get to four. He’s basically going to be the Kings’ version of Jamie Feick (peep the Per 36-minute numbers). Brock showed a nice spin move out of the post that produced a lay-up early on in the game and he also knocked down a 17-foot jump shot on the baseline. Both of these plays were things that Kings fans should be excited to see him develop. If he can even be a little bit of a threat on offense, he’ll get extended minutes on the floor.
Omri Casspi
Maybe I have blinders on but I still like what I see from Omri. He’s still aggressive but not in a degenerative Stephon Marbury-type of way. He knocked down a three-point shot that showed good form and he made a couple of nice moves to the basket. He stole the ball twice with both of them coming off of loose balls that he corralled. He’s getting to the basket but not finishing when he does. To me, that’s an encouraging sign. When you consider that until this week he hadn’t played competitive basketball in months, you can see that his shooting and scoring troubles probably have more to do with playing the rust off of his game rather than him being incapable of doing those things consistently. I also liked his man-to-man defense in this game. It wasn’t great, lockdown defense but it was nice to see.
Wesley Matthews
Wes didn’t shoot the ball all that great but he didn’t shoot it that poorly. He did a great job of attacking the defense and getting the free throw line. But Matthews didn’t do two things well at all in this game. First, he didn’t move the ball well and second, he didn’t defend at all. Matthews was lit up by both Jeffers and Trey Johnson throughout this game and couldn’t do anything to slow down the bigger scorers. If he can’t defend, despite his smaller stature, then he won’t have a place on an NBA roster. His scoring is nice but he’s not a good enough or big enough player to make it in the league if he gives up points like this.
Brian Roberts
Brian got the starting nod at the last minute because of Evans’ injured finger. Unfortunately for Brian, he didn’t really have much of a game. He only played about 11 minutes total and once Evans decided to get into the game, it was no longer necessary for Roberts to play. Roberts didn’t contribute to the scoring at all in this game with zero points and zero assists. It’s disappointing because Roberts was having a nice summer but this could have been a major setback in him garnering enough respect around NBA GMs to get him an eventual job this year.
Jerel McNeal
Look at what I just wrote for Roberts and replace Brian Roberts’ name with Jerel McNeal’s name.
Donte Greene
Donte had one of his better games in just 17 minutes of action. He only shot 2/6 from the field on his way to eight points but he rebounded the ball five times in his time, racked up three assists and even had a strong block inside. Greene has shown a much more consistent ability to play defense in the post this summer and has rebounded the ball very well for someone who was so poor at it last season. Fans might be concerned that we haven’t seen a 40-point outburst from DG this summer like Rockets fans saw last summer but he’s working on some intangibles that he needed to improve.
Marcus Landry
Once again, Landry scored the ball efficiently and shot the ball well from the floor. He made four of his six shots and put in 10 points in just 14 minutes. Landry should be figuring out where he’s staying in Sacramento for the months of September and October this fall because he has definitely earned a camp invite.
Ryan Toolson
He played eight minutes and the most important thing I can say about him is he’s Danny Ainge’s nephew. Thanks for coming, Ryan.
Robert Battle
In two minutes of play, he grabbed two offensive rebounds, turned the ball over twice and committed two fouls. He’s still terrifying to look at.
Tyreke Evans
This was a very low key and confusing game for the Kings’ prospect that NBATV play-by-play announcer Rick Kamla awkwardly called “delicious.” He didn’t start because of the sprained finger that kept him out of Tuesday’s scrimmage against Portland. But he managed to talk his way into playing when the second quarter started and ended up playing a facilitator role for the Kings in his 23 minutes. It felt like they told him to not worry about being a physical scorer and instead, just concentrate on moving the ball and hang back on offense.
Towards the end of the game, Reke couldn’t quite hold back any longer and did much more driving and playmaking. He ran the pick-and-roll with Tyreke perfectly a couple of times and kept the ball high on his entry passes to Thompson off the roll, which made it much easier for the JT to go straight to the rack. Evans even had a nice drive down the middle to suck in the defense and he dropped a low bounce pass to Thompson for another score around the basket. Tyreke also did a nice job on the boards with six rebounds on the night.
And now for some Jason Thompson breakdown:
I saved JT for last because he had the exact type of game that everybody wanted to see this summer. He wasn’t tentative, lazy, or sloppy with any aspect of his game. He scored early and often in a variety of ways. He attacked the basket quickly and aggressively, which the defense was too slow to stop. He showed tough, hard work on the boards, both offensively and defensively. He blocked shots and proved to be a solid defender throughout the game.
Jason was finally the player that I implored him to be, recently. He wasn’t slow and he didn’t wait for the game to come to him. He didn’t wait for the defense to take the inside away, forcing him to shoot jumpers. He kept the defenders off balance by making strong moves to the hoop and when they backed off, he shot and made jumpers. On the boards, he grabbed five offensive and five defensive rebounds while keeping numerous rebounds alive to give his teammates an opportunity to secure the ball. And he was credited with just two blocks because he had three taken away on questionable terrible foul calls. It was the type of game that erased all of my doubts of his heart and drive from his previous games.
There are a lot of worst things than losing to the D-League team in the VSL – especially when your second-year starting power forward breaks out of his funk to dominate the game.
Haven’t watched the game yet, cause I was working during it, but I am encouraged by Jason’s performance. The best part about it to me is that he knew he was in a funk (quoted in the Bee), was frustrated, and just came out and dominated with energy.
And looking at the box score and Thorpe’s tweets, I don’t see what the problem is with Bron Jockman as an NBA big. He had one block (above the rim according to Thorpe) and two steals on defense. He’s a huge body so you’re not going to push him around easily, and if he learns a few post moves and to hit his jumpers consistently, I will be very happy with him as our 4th big man.
I’m glad Landry continued to impress. Reading the Sactown Royalty game thread, a lot of people are confused where he’ll play if we sign him (since he’s big enough to play the 3 position) but I think its obvious he’ll play the two guard. He’d be our 3rd option at that position behind Cisco. Which isn’t a bad thing, since we need insurance policies for both K-Mart and Cisco. Omri could probably play the 2 in a pinch as well.
Alright time to watch the game and see if I have any other thoughts.
In the podcast you say Curry wont ever get 8-9 assists that he needs to be a a legit point guard, there were only 6 pgs who averaged more than 8 last year. Billups only averaged 6 is he not a legitamate point guard. Curry will have a chance to be a Mo Williams, Mike Bibby, Jameer Nelson, Derek Fischer type guard. He’ll just need to be on a team with a dominant two, three, or four.
LOL, currently watching the game, and the “delicious” remark was hilariously awkward. But the play that earned it was very nice.
Good game from JT. Omri play pretty well too. He plays a little too fast right now, but I definitely think he’ll get better at controlling his speed. He’s a very scrappy player and he definitely has a future in this league. And so does Marcus Landry and for the D-Leaguers, Othyus Jeffers impressed me.
Interesting post Zach, and thanks for posting what you wrote about JT. I wonder if Jt’s positive game had anything to do with the fact that Tyreke Evans was not playing as much.
I think the idea that Evans is a G and G’s tend to score well and put up good #’s is both interesting, and scary, when it comes to the regular season. I want Easy Reke to succeed, no doubt, but at the same time I want it to come within a flow to where he’s utilizing his abilities and keeping teammates involved by helping them get the ball at the same time.
It’s a tough process changing your team, and JT, Donte, and Reke are just 3 components. There is no way that SL was going to be anything other than a starting point that is pretty simple and easy in the grand scheme of things. There is no reason to worry about winning and/or losing. But, at the same time, taking it personal that you lose is one way to help your success in the NBA.
Only time can tell. Thanks, again, for the writeup Zach.
@steve
Steve, I think you’re forgetting my other caveat for him not being a legit, full-time point guard in this league that was play-making ability. Of the guys, you named only Chauncey Billups and Mike Bibby in his early days were legit point guards because of their play-making and even Chauncey didn’t become a good point guard until he hit Minnesota. The other guys are scoring guards put at the point guard position. I think there’s a difference.
It doesn’t mean that Steph can’t play point at times. But I think any team that cements him as a point guard and makes him become one is losing out on maximizing his abilities. He’s a great scorer. No need to make him play point if you want the most out of him. It isn’t a knock against him by any means. I just think he should play his more natural position like Ben Gordon does.
@pookeyguru
Ya, I was thinking about that too with JT’s success possibly being because of Evans’ lack of play. Evans did a better job of running pick and rolls with JT in this game than I saw before but he also wasn’t really looking to score all that much until the end of the game.
I also find it hard to judge all of Evans’ point guard play because they aren’t really running the offense that Westphal will have in place. They’re just running ideas and stringing together various schemes throughout the game. I think that might be a reason for Evans not looking in sync with his two veteran big men out there.
I still wonder how well JT, Hawes and Donte can gel together on a basketball court. If that’s the supposed frontcourt of the future, someone is going to have to learn how to play good defense among them. JT showed me that he’s much more capable than the other guys with that effort last night.
@Aykis16
The delicious remark was just awful. I damn-near turned it to mute after that but I couldn’t because I had no idea who anyone on the D-League team was outside of Jeffers and Trey Johnson.
I think you’re right about Casspi. He’s just playing a little too fast. He reminds me of a rookie QB who is trying to speed things up in order to keep pace with the other guys in the game as opposed to trying to slow things down to a slow motion point of view. I just love the way this guy has persevered through some rough games so far.
Im just sayin with a guys like captain jack, mags, and monta around him they could easily play him at the point but not have him as the initiator of the offense. There are many models for success in this league and a true pg isnt the only way to win, especially when you have other ball dominant players on the team. Case in point, this years finals and conference finals, Billups was the only one who was a true point. Just becuase a guy doesnt fit the classic mold doesnt mean he cant play the position with the right guys around him.
@Zach Harper
sorry im new to the site but i replied to this below. On that note i really have been enjoying your stuff, its a nice addition to The Kings Nation.
@steve
It’s not like I’m saying that Steph can’t play. I think he’s really good. I just think if he’s your point guard (in the traditional sense or otherwise), then you’re misusing him. At the same time, I’d much rather him be the point than Monta Ellis. Monta is a shooting guard and will be an abomination at the point.
But I understand what you’re saying here. He can definitely play the point just like Ben Gordon could at times. I’d just rather him at the 2, concentrating on gunning (no Stephen Jackson).
And thanks for the kind words. Glad to have you reading and adding to the discussion.
you are well mistaken about ryan toolson. give him the ball and more minutes and see what he can do. but instead you have take a low blow and say that hes only danny ainge’ nephew. grow up dude. who are you? nobody! and with all your ignorance you will stay a nobody. try to maintain class when you talk about people you dont know.
@bobby chandler
Bobby Chandler
He typed 8 sentences and the most important thing I can say about him is that he is a little emotionally unbalanced. Thanks for coming, Bobby.
And for the record, a grown up would say something along the lines of “he’s Danny Ainge’s nephew” while a childish nobody like me would make jokes about him being a “Tool.” Just saying.
@bobby chandler
Bobby,
I’m sure Ryan is a nice guy. Hell, you probably even know him and have a good relationship with him. But the fact remains that he played exactly 25 minutes, mostly in garbage time, in the NBA Summer League. Maybe he can catch on with a D-League team and become the next Blake Ahearn. Most likely, he’ll have to hope that one of the lower level European teams thinks his game can translate overseas and will sign him.
He can score but everybody that plays in the NBA can score if given the opportunities. For someone that is far too small to be a shooting guard and not a good enough leader and floor general to be a point guard at this level, he just doesn’t have the game that translates to the NBA. His assist-to-turnover ratio in college was a joke and while his collegiate scoring numbers are impressive, he did it against fairly week competition.
I wish the best for him but someone has to be realistic as to where is place is in relation to NBA-caliber point guards. But the bright side is at worst, he’ll be the best point guard prospect amongst people who have majored in Zoology.
Thanks for reading.