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		<title>By: lllllllll</title>
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		<dc:creator>lllllllll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jun 2010 00:07:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>for a person to say jenning is better than tyreke is nuts</description>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 00:26:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I think the Tyreke Evans style of attacking a defense is much more valuable in the long-term than what Jennings does.&quot;

I liked some of your points, but I have to disagree with this. It&#039;s not all about Jennings&#039; shooting - he&#039;s also a speedster, capable of breaking down a defense and dishing out a ton of assists. He&#039;s even a triple-double threat... everyone focuses on his 55 point game - but, don&#039;t forget his first NBA game where he put up 17/9/9.

Overall I think Jennings will be the better player, partly because of his shooting, but also because I think he&#039;ll average a lot more assists than Evans - especially when they get some decent players around him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I think the Tyreke Evans style of attacking a defense is much more valuable in the long-term than what Jennings does.&#8221;</p>
<p>I liked some of your points, but I have to disagree with this. It&#8217;s not all about Jennings&#8217; shooting &#8211; he&#8217;s also a speedster, capable of breaking down a defense and dishing out a ton of assists. He&#8217;s even a triple-double threat&#8230; everyone focuses on his 55 point game &#8211; but, don&#8217;t forget his first NBA game where he put up 17/9/9.</p>
<p>Overall I think Jennings will be the better player, partly because of his shooting, but also because I think he&#8217;ll average a lot more assists than Evans &#8211; especially when they get some decent players around him.</p>
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		<title>By: Pookeyguru</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pookeyguru</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 22:14:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay fine Colin, Brandon Jennings is clearly better than Tyreke Evans defensively. 82games.com says so! And, while i have nothing against 82games, Jennings, I do feel that this data is a bit mis-construed somewhat.

Any data that says Tyreke Evans is clearly a SG is a bit off because I feel that data is based off whose guarding Reke, and not how he plays.

If you want to argue that Brandon Jennings has had a better season than Tyreke Evans, go ahead. But I feel you probably don&#039;t know enough about either player to conclusively draw that opinion and make it stick.

Good luck with that hanging of yourself though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay fine Colin, Brandon Jennings is clearly better than Tyreke Evans defensively. 82games.com says so! And, while i have nothing against 82games, Jennings, I do feel that this data is a bit mis-construed somewhat.</p>
<p>Any data that says Tyreke Evans is clearly a SG is a bit off because I feel that data is based off whose guarding Reke, and not how he plays.</p>
<p>If you want to argue that Brandon Jennings has had a better season than Tyreke Evans, go ahead. But I feel you probably don&#8217;t know enough about either player to conclusively draw that opinion and make it stick.</p>
<p>Good luck with that hanging of yourself though.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 19:50:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2611&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Alex  &lt;/a&gt; 
Alex, you need to look at their average minutes per game.  Even though Tyreke has come off the bench some he averages 36.1 mpg compared to 34.8 for Jennings.</description>
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Alex, you need to look at their average minutes per game.  Even though Tyreke has come off the bench some he averages 36.1 mpg compared to 34.8 for Jennings.</p>
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		<title>By: Zach Harper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zach Harper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 19:37:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2610&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Colin &lt;/a&gt; 
Here&#039;s the problem with the 82games.com stats: we don&#039;t know how accurate they are. Now, I believe the numbers are accurate but are they just pulled from box scores and play-by-play or are they pulled from watching the actual game play?

I don&#039;t know about Jennings because I haven&#039;t charted his games but I&#039;ve been charting the Kings with stuff like points given up. Although, I&#039;m behind on doing so, I&#039;ll have the numbers up to date within two weeks and we&#039;ll go back to it then.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-2610" rel="nofollow">@Colin </a><br />
Here&#8217;s the problem with the 82games.com stats: we don&#8217;t know how accurate they are. Now, I believe the numbers are accurate but are they just pulled from box scores and play-by-play or are they pulled from watching the actual game play?</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know about Jennings because I haven&#8217;t charted his games but I&#8217;ve been charting the Kings with stuff like points given up. Although, I&#8217;m behind on doing so, I&#8217;ll have the numbers up to date within two weeks and we&#8217;ll go back to it then.</p>
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		<title>By: jon</title>
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		<dc:creator>jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 18:47:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;#commentbody-2604&quot;&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2604&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;GSW &gt; Sacramento Kings&lt;/a&gt; :&lt;/strong&gt;
sacramento blog would trash on anthony randolph &amp; the warriors…
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Trash &gt; Warriors</description>
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<strong><a href="#comment-2604" rel="nofollow">GSW &gt; Sacramento Kings</a> :</strong><br />
sacramento blog would trash on anthony randolph &amp; the warriors…
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<p>Trash &gt; Warriors</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 17:21:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>C.S. you need to look at per-48 min averages to get a better look at the distances between the two. Jennings has started all year, and Evans has had some bench time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>C.S. you need to look at per-48 min averages to get a better look at the distances between the two. Jennings has started all year, and Evans has had some bench time.</p>
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		<title>By: Colin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Colin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 15:32:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2595&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Pookeyguru &lt;/a&gt; 
How do you figure that Evans is the better defender?  The numbers suggest otherwise:

http://www.82games.com/0910/09MIL1.HTM#bypos
http://www.82games.com/0910/09SAC3.HTM#bypos

if the defensive numbers were close, I&#039;d probably ignore this and yield to a scouting eye.  But they&#039;re not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-2595" rel="nofollow">@Pookeyguru </a><br />
How do you figure that Evans is the better defender?  The numbers suggest otherwise:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.82games.com/0910/09MIL1.HTM#bypos" rel="nofollow">http://www.82games.com/0910/09MIL1.HTM#bypos</a><br />
<a href="http://www.82games.com/0910/09SAC3.HTM#bypos" rel="nofollow">http://www.82games.com/0910/09SAC3.HTM#bypos</a></p>
<p>if the defensive numbers were close, I&#8217;d probably ignore this and yield to a scouting eye.  But they&#8217;re not.</p>
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		<title>By: GSW &#62; Sacramento Kings</title>
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		<dc:creator>GSW &#62; Sacramento Kings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 03:11:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sacramento blog would trash on anthony randolph &amp; the warriors...</description>
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		<title>By: C.S.</title>
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		<dc:creator>C.S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 02:56:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Love Tyreke, but I think someone needs to point out that the stats you use don&#039;t really make that strong a case.  Look at the categories in which Jennings leads Evans -- and, more importantly, &lt;i&gt;by how much&lt;/i&gt;: 
3 more points per game
1 more assist per game
17.7% better at three-point shooting.  

Those are pretty big margins, especially the three-pointers.  

Now, there&#039;s arguments you can make to equalize those numbers.  For example, statisticians routinely toss out outliers, and what is Jennings&#039; 55-point game but an outlier?  Better to toss it out and recalculate --- now where&#039;s that 3 point margin, Brandon? Or arguing that with only a few games in the books, a average one-assist margin isn&#039;t all that big.  Or maybe Tyreke doesn&#039;t take as many threes, so the one game where he went 0-for-something skews his percentages.  Something.  

But you didn&#039;t make those arguments.  You tried a little sleight of hand.  You called Jennings&#039; lead in those categories &quot;statistical advantages.&quot;  Then you pointed to other categories where you said Evans &quot;excels over Jennings.&quot;  Kinda tricky -- &quot;statistical advantage&quot; vs. &quot;excels over&quot; -- seeming to imply that Jennings&#039; numerical advantage is slim in those categories, while Evans&#039; advantage is much larger in each category.  But it ain&#039;t so, is it? 
A 1.8% lead in field goal percentage? Come on. 
A 5% statistical lead on two-point shots.  I mean, I kinda see it, but they&#039;re both in the same ballpark.  
A 1 rebound-per-game difference, when Evans is 5 inches taller?  Please.
A steals lead of 0.15 per game?  Again, come on.  That&#039;s ticky-tack.  
A 1.6% difference from the free throw line?  One more times on the line on average? A 0.09 turnovers per game difference?  That&#039;s less than one tenth of 1 percent!    

There&#039;s a case to be made for Tyreke Evans, but this ain&#039;t it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love Tyreke, but I think someone needs to point out that the stats you use don&#8217;t really make that strong a case.  Look at the categories in which Jennings leads Evans &#8212; and, more importantly, <i>by how much</i>:<br />
3 more points per game<br />
1 more assist per game<br />
17.7% better at three-point shooting.  </p>
<p>Those are pretty big margins, especially the three-pointers.  </p>
<p>Now, there&#8217;s arguments you can make to equalize those numbers.  For example, statisticians routinely toss out outliers, and what is Jennings&#8217; 55-point game but an outlier?  Better to toss it out and recalculate &#8212; now where&#8217;s that 3 point margin, Brandon? Or arguing that with only a few games in the books, a average one-assist margin isn&#8217;t all that big.  Or maybe Tyreke doesn&#8217;t take as many threes, so the one game where he went 0-for-something skews his percentages.  Something.  </p>
<p>But you didn&#8217;t make those arguments.  You tried a little sleight of hand.  You called Jennings&#8217; lead in those categories &#8220;statistical advantages.&#8221;  Then you pointed to other categories where you said Evans &#8220;excels over Jennings.&#8221;  Kinda tricky &#8212; &#8220;statistical advantage&#8221; vs. &#8220;excels over&#8221; &#8212; seeming to imply that Jennings&#8217; numerical advantage is slim in those categories, while Evans&#8217; advantage is much larger in each category.  But it ain&#8217;t so, is it?<br />
A 1.8% lead in field goal percentage? Come on.<br />
A 5% statistical lead on two-point shots.  I mean, I kinda see it, but they&#8217;re both in the same ballpark.<br />
A 1 rebound-per-game difference, when Evans is 5 inches taller?  Please.<br />
A steals lead of 0.15 per game?  Again, come on.  That&#8217;s ticky-tack.<br />
A 1.6% difference from the free throw line?  One more times on the line on average? A 0.09 turnovers per game difference?  That&#8217;s less than one tenth of 1 percent!    </p>
<p>There&#8217;s a case to be made for Tyreke Evans, but this ain&#8217;t it.</p>
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