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Revisiting Carlos Boozer

A couple of things over the weekend got me to thinking about Carlos Boozer playing in Sacramento. First was this piece from the Salt Lake Tribune that mentioned the Kings as a possible destination for Carlos Boozer. Then I saw this comment from a reader named Mo:

Any chance Kings can make a trade for Boozer? The Jazz need to clear space if they want to resign Millsap and they were most likely gonna let Boozer walk had he opted out. If Kings can put together a trade, either around Nocioni or Thomas’ expiring contract, we can get a solid post player for a season. This way we fill seats, and have a chance at competing with the rest of the west. At the end of the 2010 season, we can let Boozer walk and use the money to go after a big time 2010 free agent. What do you think?

So I started thinking about a trade of Kenny Thomas (and his expiring contract) to the Jazz for Carloz Boozer. The deal would save them roughly $3-4 million this season because of the difference in salaries and it would be an expiring contract so there are no long-term implications to the cap (unless the Jazz want to sign K9 to a max extension). Perhaps the Kings could even get C.J. Miles thrown into the deal to add some depth to the backcourt but since we’re speculating, let’s just assume the Kings do a straight up trade of Thomas for Boozer.

A week or two or three ago, Tom Ziller discussed the ideas and analysis of trading Kenny Thomas’ expiring contract to the Utah Jazz for impending free agent and bigger expiring contract, Carlos Boozer. It’s idea that Kings fans have tossed around and tussled with to maximize the growth of this franchise and possibly put them into the playoffs much sooner than the current progression would yield. Before we get into the idea of what Carlos Boozer could mean to the team, we should look at the landscape of the Western Conference to see if there is actually room enough in the top eight teams to legitimize a push towards playing basketball into late April/early May.

Last year’s standings in the Western Conference were:

1. Lakers
2. Nuggets 11 GB
3. Spurs 11 GB
4. Blazers 11 GB
5. Rockets 12 GB
6. Mavericks 15 GB
7. Hornets 16 GB
8. Jazz 17 GB
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9. Suns 19 GB
10. Warriors 36 GB
11. Wolves 41 GB
12. Grizzlies 41 GB
13. Thunder 42 GB
14. Clippers 46 GB
15. Kings 48 GB

Making up 31 games is quite the task to take up for this coming season, considering the Kings won just 17 contests last season. But there have been some major changes in the Western Conference so far this off-season that could potentially open the door. Let’s take it team by team starting off with the five teams that didn’t make a run at the playoffs (not including the Kings):

Clippers: Traded away personality albatross Zach Randolph in exchange for a five-year reunion with Quentin Richardson. Thus, the door was opened for Blake Griffin to get regular minutes and lessen the logjam in the paint. However, Mike Dunleavy is still the coach and will guarantee that this team will be improved but not playoff good.

Thunder: The Thunder are scary because they will go as far as their young developing talent takes them. Durant looks to be on the cusp of being the leader/go-to guy on a winning team. Westbrook is a defensive stalwart and Jeff Green has the goods to be a mismatch all over the place. But they didn’t make any significant splashes yet with their cap flexibility and probably aren’t quite there for making a 30-game leap.

Grizzlies: They drafted Hasheem Thabeet and traded for Zach Randolph. I’m going to go out on a limb and say they haven’t improved enough.

Wolves: They are compiling a roster of nothing but power forwards and point guards. Not a threat to make the playoffs.

Warriors: Is Monta Ellis capable of being a real point guard? Is Andris Biedrins a stat-gatherer that actually translates to wins? Can a team win with 10 shooting guards on the roster? Warriors still a player or two away from being there again.

Lakers: Just won the NBA title and basically traded Trevor Ariza for Ron Artest. Sure, they’re a little crazier but does anyone think this team didn’t actually get better? They’re in.

Nuggets: So far this off-season they settled their backup point guard spot by trading a future pick for Ty Lawson. Chris Andersen probably returns and Carmelo Anthony looks to be on the upswing. They’re in.

Spurs: Traded deadweight for Richard Jefferson and look to be adding Glen Davis and others via free agency. Tim Duncan could play with my rec league team and make the NBA playoffs as an 8-seed.

Blazers: They’re getting good already, looking to add a significant player this summer with some money and now have Greg Oden looking like a monster in his training this summer. If he stays healthy, this is easily a top three team. They’re in.

Rockets: This is the first hiccup in the playoff teams looking to get back to the post-season. Yao Ming is probably out for the entire year if not more, barring some lab engineering to get him a bionic foot (don’t rule it out). Trevor Ariza is replacing Ron Artest, which is a big downgrade no matter what type of hype you want to give to Ariza. And Tracy McGrady will probably last half a season at best coming off of a significant knee injury. Are the role players good enough to keep them in?

Mavericks: Another year with the same players and they’re all getting older instead of better. They’re still good enough to sneak into the playoffs.

Hornets: Imagine how good this team could be if Chris Paul was playing with competent players. He’s good enough to keep them in.

Jazz: Could be completely dependent upon health and what happens with Carlos Boozer.

Suns: Are they blowing this thing up? Is Amar’e Stoudemire going to be there? Are they good enough to get back in after just missing last year?

So that’s the landscape in the West. Six teams are definitely in, barring major injuries. The Rockets should be falling out unless Rick Adelman can perform a miracle with reviving that roster. The Clippers and Thunder are threats to improve significantly but are they actually good enough (or in the Clippers case do they like their coach enough) to play their way into the playoffs? I don’t think they’re there yet.

That leaves the final two spots to the Rockets, Suns, and Jazz to battle it out. The magic number for making the playoffs looks to be around 45 to 48 wins for next season. The Jazz should be locks but are never healthy and may be jettisoning Carlos Boozer for some cap relief. And that’s where the Kings come into this. They have the best way for them to get cap relief immediately and also long term. But is it enough to get them into the playoffs? Is it too big of a risk? Is it someone who they’ll flip for another batch of pieces to add to the puzzle?

Is Carlos Boozer enough to get them into the playoffs? Is it too big of a risk?

How good is Carlos Boozer? Do we know how positively he impacts a franchise?

Warning: I’m not a statistician AT ALL (although I aced all of my math classes in school) and the following are my attempts to figure out the potential impact that Boozer could have on the Kings. These are not completely accurate findings, just educated guesses. Proceed with caution.

Throwing out Boozer’s rookie year in which he played on a purposefully tanking Cavaliers team in order to land LeBron James, Carlos Boozer has had six years in the NBA. Symmetrically, he’s had three healthy seasons and three unhealthy seasons. In the healthy seasons, he’s averaged 76 games played per season as opposed to the 40 games per season he’s averaged in the unhealthy years.

Based on averages from his healthy and unhealthy seasons and factoring in points per game, rebounds per game, shooting percentage, Player Efficiency Rating (PER), rebounding percentage, and win shares, you could expect the following numbers from Carlos in a relatively healthy year with the Kings:

19.2 ppg, 11.1 rpg, 54.5% FG, 22.2 PER, 19.0% rebounding, 9.8 win shares.

Those are actually some pretty spectacular numbers. A season like that would put him in the Top 15 in the NBA in PER making him a potential MVP candidate (depending on team improvement of course) and the rebounding rate would also be Top 15 with Carlos Boozer often in the Top 10 for that category. The win shares category is where we really start trying to figure out his impact for this team.

In an unhealthy year (average of 40 games played), this is a rough estimate of what to expect from Boozer:

16.9 ppg, 9.5 rpg, 51.8% FG, 19.2 PER, 17.3% rebounding, 3.4 win shares.

Now, the 40 games played average in three unhealthy seasons is alarming in and of itself. It’s one thing to question Kevin Martin’s injury status when he’s missing 20 to 30 games. It’s another thing to pay an eight-figure guy to miss half of an entire season. Boozer can still put up good stats in those years. Roughly 17 and 9 isn’t bad production to have coming from your power forward spot, especially one that still rebounds at a good enough rate and has an above average efficiency rating. But he is only adding a few wins to your team because of the time he’s missing. And that’s where you have to weigh the pros and cons of bringing him in to Sacramento.

Personally, I don’t think last year’s roster was a 17-win team. I think a much more realistic 25 to 28 wins despite the fact that Pythagorean win-loss record was 19-63. The Kings suffered a gutting trade and a big injury to Kevin Martin that really hindered their chances at winning most nights. Let’s just say that this team was probably more of a 25-win kind of team. Sacramento is now 20-23 wins away from that proposed magic number for making the playoffs.

If you get a healthy season from Booz, then you’re getting an assumed boost of 10 wins into team. The reason I say this is because you’re essentially giving up nothing to get him. Kenny Thomas wasn’t winning any games for you last year and to add someone of the caliber that a healthy Carlos Boozer gives you, I think it’s safe to say that he can really change the game and makeup of your team. Now our magic number is cut to 10-13 wins.

Now, do the addition of Tyreke Evans to the starting backcourt and the progression of Spencer Hawes, Jason Thompson, and Kevin Martin make up for those final remaining games? Thompson’s progression/production would be more limited with him sitting behind an All-Star level Carlos Boozer. Thompson would backup both Hawes and Boozer but playing him alongside Carlos might not mesh as well as the complement that JT and Hawes are too each other.

And what if Donte Greene makes any kind of leap? What if Casspi, Sergio, and Cisco can give the Kings a new age type of Bench Mob? In a sort of perfect storm, you could definitely see the Kings improving that seemingly ridiculous amount of games and making a run at the playoffs. And at worst, it would inject some life into the fanbase that wasn’t showing last year when the Kings were in the cellar for attendance.

But it brings up the other question:

Can they flip this power forward?

Section 214 over at StR also brought up a great point in commenting on Ziller’s post about bringing in Carlos Boozer for Kenny Thomas. Boozer’s expiring contract would be much more valuable than Thomas’. You could fetch a good haul near the trade deadline for a playoff-hopeful team, desperate to add his bulk to their frontcourt.

What if the Rockets came knocking at the deadline to add Boozer in hopes of salvaging an in-limbo season? Could the Kings bring back Trevor Ariza in return at the mid-level exception plus one of their bench reserves? Ariza, Brent Barry (expiring contract) and someone like Chuck Hayes or Joey Dorsey could be a realistic haul for them. Would that be enough of a risk-reward type of move if the Kings weren’t in playoff position with a healthy Boozer and looking to move his deal for more assets and pieces? What about a deal of Boozer to the Bulls for Tyrus Thomas and Jerome James’ expiring contract? What about Boozer for Josh Howard from the Mavs? What about Tayshaun Prince and Aaron Afflalo from Detroit?

There could be plenty of more opportunities besides those as well. Those were just the ones off the top of my head. The point is that the Kings would once again be players in the trade deadline but this time in a big position of power. They would hold the potential key someone’s playoff success if their own weren’t coming to fruition.

Acquiring Carlos Boozer doesn’t seem like too much of a risk. You aren’t adding salary. You aren’t hurting your chances for growth this year. And at worst, you have either an expiring contract at the end of the season, in which you hold the key to him getting more money with a sign-and-trade or you trade him at the deadline and acquire assets from a desperate playoff team. Best-case scenario has you challenging for a playoff spot and giving your young prospects some invaluable playoff experience and grooming.

Win-win trades should always be made and the Kings might have one here.

  • http://davissportsdeli.com/wordpress Patrick

    I don’t think it’s a feasible trade. Carlos Boozer’s expiring contract for Kenny Thomas’ expiring contract? Straight up? That’s like trading Diane Lane for Sally Field. Never gonna happen.

    The Kings would have to sweeten the pot. Potentially with Jason Thompson or Francisco Garcia. Otherwise, what’s the upshot for Utah?

  • Aykis16

    The problem is that Utah can do the trades that you mentioned just as well as we would be able to. Other teams could offer better than Kenny Thomas for Boozer

  • Aykis16

    @Patrick
    Patrick the upshot for Utah is that they might lose Paul Millsap by not having enough money to match an offer from another team. Then you lose on Millsap and Boozer. This potentially lets them have enough money to re-sign Millsap, who along with Deron Williams, should be the future of the Jazz franchise.

  • http://www.cowbellkingdom.com Zach Harper

    @Patrick
    I didn’t get into the Jazz side of the trade because this blog really doesn’t have much to do with the Jazz. But it works for them because they’re desperate to save money and keep Millsap like Aykis said.

    Utah can do the trades I mentioned but they wouldn’t be saving any money by doing so. The Kings might have to throw in a protected pick or a future second round pick or two but Utah is desperate to save money and keep someone like Millsap from bolting. They’re not going to risk him turning into the Gilbert Arenas of power forwards on another team. Not to mention, saving a team like Utah an extra four million this year (by taking K9) is huge for them.

    There is that certain element of risk on Utah’s side as well. By keeping Millsap and having Thomas back him up (he’d actually play some), they’re saying that’s a more known weapon for them than Carlos Boozer who could be great or miss 40 games.

  • Mo

    Great Article Zach!

    I really think this move is probably the Kings best option this offseason. If they do not make another offseason move besides their draft picks, we’d be lucky if they win 25 games next year. I think the Kings need to try and trade Nocioni. We got a log jam at the SF position with Casspi coming this year. With Nocioni, Cisco, Casspi and Greene all natural SF, its going to be hard to give minutes to our young guys. I think the Kings should look into trading Nocioni along with Thomas contract, and Beno to Utah for AK47 and Boozer. The Jazz get rid of Kirlienko, who has fallen out of their rotation a little and they really don’t like 15 million committed to him, and Boozer. The Kings pick up Boozer’s expiring contract that can be dangled this next year, and then Kirlienko’s HUGE contract that can be dangled at the trade deadline the year after. Kirlienko contract expires earlier than Nocioni. What do you think?

  • Kevin Stevens

    I don’t think Houston would be interested in Boozer. They’ve been burned way too many times with injury-ridden seasons from star players to continue down that road.

    KeS

  • Aykis16

    @Mo Only thing about Kirilenko’s contract is that it goes through 2011 so we’d sort of be screwed for summer of 2010, when we already are set to have about 18 million available.

  • http://www.cowbellkingdom.com Zach Harper

    @Mo
    Now, THAT’S a trade idea! Adding Kirilenko would be a huge risk. If this was a few years ago, it would be a better risk to take. But AK’s confidence and production are pretty much shot and $34 million over the next two years for someone like that is tough for a small market team to potentially swallow.

    But if he WAS better than he is in Jerry Sloan’s doghouse, it could definitely close that gap. A confident Kirilenko and a healthy Boozer would almost guarantee the playoffs and the back-to-back expiring contracts for the Kings could definitely yield some pretty great assets.

  • http://www.cowbellkingdom.com Zach Harper

    @Kevin Stevens
    I think Houston is about to be desperate to make the playoffs and generate that needed post-season revenue. If Yao is out for the year or more and McGrady isn’t the old McGrady instead of the Old McGrady then they’ll be willing to rent Carlos for a couple of months to make the playoffs.

  • http://www.cowbellkingdom.com Zach Harper

    @Aykis16
    They would HAVE to be guaranteed the playoffs if the Kings were to eat that cap space with AK’s contract. I agree with you on that.

  • Jordan

    Boozer for Kenny Thomas? Is that a joke?

  • Jordan

    I mean really. Why would the jazz do that trade? It makes no logical sense. Sure Thomas has an expiring contract but so does Boozer. Boozer averages 20 and 10. Kenny Thomas has a career average of 9.3. No logical sense what so ever. Terrible idea.

  • http://www.cowbellkingdom.com Zach Harper

    @Jordan
    There might need to be a heavily protected pick in somewhere but in these economic times, the Jazz are potentially desperate to be able to keep Paul Millsap who has a longer, brighter future than Boozer. It’s not THAT far-fetched even though it sounds absurd.

  • http://www.cowbellkingdom.com Zach Harper

    @Jordan
    It saves them about $4 million instantly because Thomas’ contract is less than Boozer’s. It’s almost a necessary evil for the Jazz at this point in order to match any offer for Millsap.

    This isn’t the first place it’s been bandied about either.

  • anon

    trade Beno to indiana for Jamaal Tinsley, CASH MONEY and a 2nd Round Pick.
    trade Kenny Thomas to NY for Jared Jefferies, CASH MONEY, and next year’s 2nd round pick, which will be somewhat high

  • http://www.cowbellkingdom.com Zach Harper

    @anon
    Now, Jamaal Tinsley is an interesting idea. I wonder if he’s basically turned into Stephon Marbury at this point in terms of not being very effective when he comes back. He still has tons of talent but does he have the head for it?

    I would be scared of the Jeffries deal because his contract runs into 2011 and he’s arguably the worst basketball player in the NBA. But the 2nd round pick is a good idea.

  • Jeremy

    @Zach Harper
    I think the Jazz only do this deal if options A-Y are not possible, and I mean that nicely. Yes, they would save $3 to $4 million. But they’d still be over the luxury tax, especially if they re-sign Millsap. The smart thing for the Jazz to do is trade Boozer/Miles to a team in return for an all star (or all star in the making) at the two guard position (for example the Boozer/Richard Hamilton swap); re-sign Millsap, let Okur and Korver walk after the season since their deals are expiring, and head into next year with a core of Deron Williams/Paul Millsap/star two guard/AK47 and about $15 million in cap space. Not to mention the Jazz have the Knicks’ pick next year (which if the Knicks let David Lee & Nate Robinson go, and don’t sign anyone this year, is looking to be a top five pick for sure), and if they do make the playoffs this year they’ll also have their pick as well. There really is no incentive for them to do this deal. You have Millsap waiting, and I think they’re seeing what teams are offering for Boozer that will allow them to plug Millsap into the starting line-up to replace Boozer AND acquire a star player at the small forward or shooting guard spot. They’re going to be paying the luxury tax either way, so why take back Kenny Thomas (even if it saves $3-4 million a year) when you can trade Boozer for someone to fill a position they actually need help at? I don’t think it’s a crappy trade, per se, but I don’t think it will be the Jazz’ first through ten options when considering what to do with Boozer.

  • http://www.cowbellkingdom.com Zach Harper

    @Jeremy
    I don’t know that it’s THAT far down the list for the Jazz options but I definitely agree it’s not one of their top options. Clearly, they can get more but teams might only be willing to give up only so much without a guarantee that Boozer signs an extension with them. And I think that’s the kicker for what they can get in terms of a star-ish player in return.

    But I completely agree with what you’ve stated here otherwise. Good comment.

  • Aykis16

    @anon
    K-9 for Jeffries, money, and a 2nd rounder is not good value. Simply letting K-9 walk would be more valuable.

  • http://www.cowbellkingdom.com Zach Harper

    Aykis16 :

    @anon
    K-9 for Jeffries, money, and a 2nd rounder is not good value. Simply letting K-9 walk would be more valuable.

    I agree. Jared Jeffries is the worst player in the NBA.

  • T-Rex

    Jazz fan here. No way the Jazz do this deal. They’ve already accepted that they’re paying the tax this year. They’re hanging onto Boozer (probably to trade him later) and they’ve let it be known league-wide that they’re matching any offer for Millsap. The only benefit for the Jazz would be $3 million ($6 million once you factor in tax implications) that they would save. Here’s why it’s not as bad as you think. The Jazz are going to get Millsap cheap. He has no leverage now because the Jazz have been saying for over a season now that they will match any offer for him. So, let’s say you think the Jazz are bluffing and you sign Millsap for $12 million? Do you really think he is worth $12 million? No. So now, if the Jazz don’t re-sign him, you are screwed. So you’re not going to make that offer and take that risk. If you offer him a reasonable amount $8 million, you know the Jazz will match. All you’ve done is tie up your free agent money for a week while other teams are signing players.

    Meanwhile, the Jazz hang on to Boozer and his juicy contract. They pay the tax this year and it hurts. Hot Dogs and parking cost more. But, they keep Boozer’s expiring contract as trade bait and they have NY 2009 first rounder so things look bright despite the inevitable tax hit.

  • http://www.cowbellkingdom.com Zach Harper

    @T-Rex
    That’s a great point. Really the only team that can throw a wrench into what you present is OKC and I don’t know that they’ll waste their time. They might pull a Memphis Grizzlies here (see: Josh Smith re-signing with Atlanta as a restricted) but even then, it might not make a difference.

    I think the key to this whole thing is the Jazz being a playoff team. They SHOULD make the playoffs but if they didn’t, that tax hit would be even worse for them without the playoff revenue coming in.

    Millsap should have just taken the qualifying offer and gone unrestricted next summer. When will free agents learn?

  • T-Rex

    Agreed about OKC, supposedly that Sam Presti is one smart cookie who is not going to damage what he’s building in OKC just to mess with a division rival. Jazz should just send their tax bill to Kirilenko.

  • Dowjones

    @T-Rex

    What you mentioned are valid points, however since the Jazz are already over the Luxury Tax limit (I believe) if any team, basically OKC here, structures the contract for milsap so that the first year is in the 12 mil neighborhood but structures it as a declining contract (think noc), then jazz’ll be taking a VERY sizable hit resigning milsap.

    I don’t have the exact payroll figures for the Jazz handy but i’m assuming around 12 mil for milsap + 12 mil luxury tax + 6 mil or so from being already over the tax = OUCH! Factor in that the Jazz just got dominated by the Lakers last yr in the playoffs and needs to get real lucky this year to sneak into the WCF/finals (think the Magic this year –> KG injured, nice matchup against the cavs). There is no way that the Jazz would ran up a $100 mil effective payroll (factoring in luxury tax penalty, of course) just to make the playoffs. To give some perspective, even the Lakers, who are fresh off winning a championship, and the Magic won’t go into the $100 mil effective payroll territory to retain all of their core so why would the Jazz whose current core only made the WCF once because they got a break in that GSW were a total mismatch against the Mavs shell out $100 mil!???

    In conclusion, if OKC comes with a front loaded offer and the Jazz goes through with their promise of matching then either AK-47 or Boozer will get unloaded sometime before trade deadline with the objective being to shed as much salary as possible. When the owner says they’ll pay the Luxury Tax, that doesn’t mean going waaay overboard to the tune of 30 mil over the luxury tax limit, it means exactly what it means, paying a moderate amount of luxury tax to retain the core and obviously right now, neither boozer nor ak-47 and maybe even Okur (though i highly doubt that) are considered part of the core and might get moved for pennies on the dollar simply to ease some bleeding on the part of the Ownership.

    Now….

    a trade i would get on board for, Noc for Boozer straight up —> Kings get more cap next summer and get rid of Noc’s not K-9 (woof!) horrible but still horribly long contract and Jazz gets more cap relief than would from a K-9/Boozer trade and also gets a useful swingman who would actually be able to contribute, either off the bench in a Harpring-like role or take over SF so that AK can come off the bench and be more effective with the 2nd unit similar to Odom with the Lakers last year.

    First post, hope it’s not too long hahaha

  • Dowjones

    @Zach Harper

    I hear that a certain center by the name of Serge Ibaka is doing pretty well in summer leagues for OKC…so maybe they own’t need Milsap afterall, but then, dominating summer league doesn’t always correlate with dominating in the NBA…..for whatever reason =[

  • http://www.cowbellkingdom.com Zach Harper

    @Dowjones
    Dow, that first comment was pretty much perfect. The idea of Nocioni for Boozer is intriguing too for the simple fact that he is actually a pretty good option as a backup power forward and he gives them reason to not have to rely on Matt Harpring’s dead knees.

    As for Ibaka, he’s still sooooo young and really raw. He has had a couple of nice games in Orlando so far this summer but he doesn’t really know how to play. He has accumulated 15 fouls in 2 games and only 8 rebounds. I think he’s probably 3 years away from coming over unless Sam Presti gets desperate.

  • elfboy

    Instead of Boozer, we should go after NYK’s David Lee. They’ve barely offered him more than the mid-level, and we’ve got a bunch of cap space to give him more.